NewsFebruary 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Code This For Me! Wharton Douchiness Exploited On A New Blog

The playful characterization of Whartonites as money-hungry  by the common people of the College of Arts and Sciences is such a mainstay at Penn that it’s basically a cliché. What we didn’t know though, is that Engineers hate Wharton’s wannabe Masters of the Universe even more than the College hoi polloi – and actually with good reason.

Much to the delight of the Engineering Quad gang, and to the dismay of Hunstman Hall hangers-on, meet Whartonite Seeks Code Monkey, a blog devoted to ripping on the business students who have big dreams and plans for tech-y startups, but don’t have the technical know-how to proceed. Alas, enter the Engineering Code Monkey, expected to do all the hard stuff, likely without all the recognition the biz kids are getting.

The blog, which insiders tell us is essentially produced by “the whole Computer Science undergrad body working together” finds its content in posting requests for developers and coders – often highlighting them with a mocking title. Most of the postings tend to start with “I’m looking for a…” and then rant on with some permutation of the phrases “back-end developer,” “coding,” “entrepreneurial,” and “social networking.”

The site is mostly an inside joke for those of the Comp Sci persuasion, but it sheds light on an interesting conflict between the drooling-for-startups entrepreneurs business world and the engineers they’re desperately seeking to employ. Working at a start up in the tech space – in social media, mobile apps, and so on – is hot, hip and buzzword-y – naturally entrepreneurial Whartonites and entrepreneurs in New York, San Francisco and elsewhere are all over it (they’ve got the same problems as us). But without the technical prowess to build these apps and sites themselves, the Engineers have the upper hand.

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By First Class Whartonite at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

We Whartonites make things happen. We put together separate moving parts and set them into action. You engineers will always be paid salary, while we reap the capital gains of our ventures. Why? Because we are more creative and more dynamic. You engineers are single-minded, content with coding and programming for the rest of your lives. We provide solutions to conflict, the pieces to the puzzle, offering social benefit to the world we live in. This is how it is, and how it always will be. If you were meant to be an entrepreneur, you would be a Whartonite. Not an engineer. Enjoy such meaningless blogs. I laugh at your misery.

By zing at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

as an engineer i find this site tasteless, rude, and incredibly not funny.

By College Student Going to Law School at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

This is why I’m a College student. No skills to be exploited. No sense of superiority to revel in. I guess I could have been a nurse, but then I would have had to get a job. Law school sounds more fun.

By Victor Stagnetti at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Haha @First Class Whartonite… you sound like you’re deifying yourself and all other “Whartonites”. Here is the way I look at it: engineers make the product for you to sell. Without the engineers (or any equivalent in other sectors), business people are nothing and have no power.

tl;dr: get off your high horse

By Comp sci at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

To the snarky Whartonite above:

Stop trying to make yourself feel better. If you actually knew what goes on nowadays in a tech company, you’d know that programmers design and innovate as much as you do. We take ideas we have and we actually have the chops to build them. Also, there’s a reason why so many of the most successful tech/web companies were started by computer scientists, NOT business students.

Instead of taking offense, maybe you can learn something from it so we can all coexist peacefully.

Like Jesse Eisenberg says in The Social Network, “if you were the inventors of Facebook, then you would’ve invented Facebook.”

By single-minded engineer at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Dude, tell that to zuck, bill, sergey and larry. Good luck.

By Single-minded engineer at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Also, probably worth noting we’ve been making the tech rounds (
http://andrewchenblog.com/2011/02/05/stanford-cs-major-seeks-salesmarketing-monkey/) thanks to Caterina Fake (Flickr/Hunch founder). Thanks, Caterina!

By to that whartonite at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Look up engineering economics. Business is no longer just a wharton thing. The richest people in the world are slowly trending towards engineers. Have fun working in a bank all your life though, the outside world won’t miss any of you.

By TITS B. CALM at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

@First Class Whartonite

Take it easy with all that undergrad business course lingo.

gains and ventures, creative and dynamic, solutions, and the pieces to the puzzle.

Who talks like that in the real world? I mean in the non-superficial world.

I think you need to decode your programming. This ain’t no job interview, son.

By M&T at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Or you could just be an M&T

By lol at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

have to assume that “Whartonite” is trolling and not a Whartonite at all. I refuse to believe anyone, even a creative, dynamic, solution-providing, capital-gains-reaping, wannabe entrepreneur could seriously end a post with, “I laugh at your misery.”

By Derp at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Lol, don’t feed the troll, guys.

By TO: First Class Whartonite at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

…This reminds me of a certain freshman Whartonite living in Gregory College House…

By Thomas Jansen at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

First Class Whartonite: rather than ‘while we reap the capital gains of our ventures,’ don’t you mean something more along the lines of ‘while we, as market-facing change agents, leverage your core competencies at mission critical junctures to both move things forward while cashing in and denying you your sweat equity.’

By Soon to be Whartonite at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Not gonna lie reading all this animosity is really worrying. Instead of Engineering students and business students constantly competeing wouldn’t it be more beficial for all of us if we worked together to create products and innovations that improve the lives of those that aren’t as fortunate as us? We all focus on what we feel were strongest at therefore instead of criticizing each other and having these superiority complexes we should pull together and play to our strengthes to reach our full potential.

By Someone needs to get laid at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Engineers: chillax, get out of the fish bowl, stop defending your inferiority complex. Has it ever occurred to you that the above ‘Whartonite’ was joking?

By @ Soon to be at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

It’s the internet, not real life. Besides, Engineering Students hang around DRL (near 34th) while Wharton students hang around JMHH (around 40th).

By SOMEONE THAT WILL LAY YOU at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Look, who gives a damn whether you’re in E or W or anything else. Just make the world go round. And I’ll sit back here and paint flower pots.

By I suppose we can all agree that... at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

…Dental school kids can just suck it.

-SAS

By OMFG at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

This site is hilarious. Thumbs-up, Penngineers. And really? I’m pretty sure “First-Class” is a dazed freshman convinced that Wharton alone will make him the next Donald Trump.

By Upscale Asshole at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

I keep expecting those emails to turn into Nigerian prince scams.

By SEAS + SAS is love at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Fellow Engineers and not-so-fellow Whartonites:

I invite you all to come settle this by sharing a peace pipe at my apartment. Flower pot girl, you can come too.

Signed,
Love Drug

By Coder at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

do {
give us the equity we deserve dammit;
} while (we do all the work);

By Eng CS guy at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

I know all the guys who have created the site. First of all, it absolutely is a bit of an inside joke. But we don’t hate the Whartonites (any more than everybody else, that is :p ). There is a place for businessmen in the world, even in our world.

But the thing is, they’ve got it completely backwards. The least business-savvy tech guy in the world can *still* be very successful, just perhaps not as successful as he should be. But Mr. Wharton MBA won’t get *anywhere* without something to sell! It’s that simple.

The best Whartonite in the world *still has no product*. But they want to think it’s all their doing. That’s what we take offense to.

Wharton students out there: Position yourself as a partner, a sort of agent for the tech guy. You can arrange things business-wise so we can focus on the product. That doesn’t piss us off so much – but don’t be offended if we think we’re up to the task ourselves. Some people are, and some aren’t, but it’s pretty common.

By @ENG CS GUY at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Business majors don’t necessarily need a product to sell; they can start hedge funds and private equity firms!

By anon :: CIS at February 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Sorry to perform thread necromancy, but this hasn’t been brought up by anyone, so here we go:

This is all a huge false dichotomy. There are certain things which one needs a formal education to learn, but when it comes down to it, any finitely long education will inevitably leave blanks. We as students of Penn caliber are perfectly capable of filling in the blanks ourselves. This isn’t some kind of community college or *shudder* University of Pheonix pre-professional program. Being in a particular undergraduate school does not define a person or even one’s area of expertise.

Imagine a situation where a computational materials scientist who happens to know a thing or two about people decides to set up a data driven model with which to figure out a product to sell, while an accounting student who knows a thing or two about visual design sets up a cheap process with which to manufacture trinket X.

Not just that, but WSCM is hilarious because the business students who make the original posts are just so hilariously bad at business that anyone with a sliver of intelligence can see the flaws in the proposed ventures. I suspect that Wharton students would actually appreciate that site the most.

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